definitely want to hear you follow up on your review of the Krypton. If it's combining the 3 in 1 you mentioned of the Sperti and the other lamp, would you adjust the settings differently if using morning, noon, evening? Like you wouldn't want a full blast of UV-B in the morning, but you would at noon, and then not at sunset?
It's been warm here the last few days, got some good midday sun, even on the goods. Mildly addictive. Just pulled the trigger on the Inferno. Looking forward to all the benefits!
This post couldn’t have come at a better time. I’ve been deep in the rabbit hole of Red Light/IR and circadian lifestyle. Was going to purchase this below product but now reconsidering upon seeing you mention that most Red Light products are a waste. Would that apply to this as well?
"Absolutely works better than finasteride" for hair growth. Do you now think red light therapy is even better than you did when you wrote the hairloss post? Thank you
Also, does the red light from the krypton actually reach the hair on top of your head when you are standing in front of it? Or would you still need a red light cap for this purpose?
UM, thanks for the detailed prescription the other day in the Q&As. Have commenced a purge on my lighting environment, and have been researching about light therapy. So needless to say the EMR-TEK Inferno is better than any makeshift contraptions (therabulb with brooder clamp) because of the wattage. For overall home lighting, I've always used low flicker/flicker free soft LEDs (2700k) with CRI 95. Would you recommend slowly changing them to the healthy home circadian friendly LEDs?
Therabulbs are cool and I have a few, but I usually just use them for heat. Incandescents are so much less efficient than LEDs that even if you match the inferno power-wise with 3 therabulbs, you're getting like 1/10 of most of the beneficial waves.
Healthy home LEDs are cool. I use a combination of incandescents (cheap AF on bulbs.com) which have some UV/red/IR to balance out the blue, healthy home bulbs, therabulbs, and the EMR-tek sunset bulb (for my night stand)
I guess the bulb placement depends on what times of the day you'll be using the lights. I do a lot of candles and oil lamps at night as well.
Thanks again for the detailed response. We barely get sun in the colder months where I live so I spent most of yesterday looking into redlight therapy and general indoor lighting but had some questions. Thankfully you created this post today🙏🙏🙏
I've always used f.lux and the nightshift feature on my phone and got a pair of bluelight blockers from amazon but will look into upgrading them and make sure I can mitigate bluelight from the indoor lighting as well.
Thats 80W, the inferno is 1400W and uses better diodes so even if you used it for 3 and a half hours, if would not equal a 20 minute session of the inferno
Have used Red Light panels for about 4 years, am a believer. However, the UV-A/UV-B gives me pause- unless I completely misunderstand, wouldn’t that cause photo-aging and wrinkle development just like sun exposure? Am I misinterpreting this, or is that just the cost of doing business for the associated Vit-D/hormonal cascade upregulation? Many thanks Hacker!
That's a great question, but we need to look at the bigger picture. If UV light ages skin, why are skin cancers and premature aging on the rise while we're more sun-avoidant than ever? We're getting opposite of what you'd expect.
Here's what's actually happening:
- UV is less than 10% of sunlight, and UVB is only about 10% of that UV
- Natural sunlight has over 50% red and infrared light which have regenerative effects
- These wavelengths work together - you never get UV alone in nature
- Red and infrared light directly combat aging through, stimulating mitochondrial function, Improving cellular water production, and supporting tissue hydration
The problem isn't UV - it's:
- Getting UV without the balancing red/infrared
- Indoor blue light exposure destroying melatonin
- Poor light environments affecting mitochondrial function
- Modern lifestyle factors (seed oils, nnEMF, etc.) making skin more fragile
- Blocking proper melanin production by wearing sunglasses or contacts
- Not getting proper eye/skin coordination for melanin response
The solution? Get natural, balanced sunlight and supplemental light exposure, while building up your solar callus gradually, alllowing proper melanin response through both eye and skin exposure, supporting mitochondrial function, and avoid artificial light environments that age you faster
No hunter-gatherer society needed sunscreen, yet they didn't have epidemic skin aging. We need to look at the whole system, not just isolate one wavelength
Put on your thinking cap and go on a journey with me. Forget everything you thought you knew.
UV is ANTIAGING in the right context.
What's happening when the skin is aging? The cells are dehydrated, mitochondrial are producing less ATP and more ROS.
Yes UV light can stimulate ROS, but you know what else does? Blue light from indoor LEDs and tech screens
Anyway, ROS causes aging because it damages DNA (the instructions your cells follow) , your body's own proteins, peptides, and other healing/signaling molecule, and it damages lipids like the ones cell membranes are made out of.
So you have too much ROS breaking shit, not enough ATP to provide energy for cells to detox and repair, and the cells don't have enough deuterium free water.
When UV light strikes melanin, it can split water into free electrons, molecular oxygen and molecular hydrogen, which then go to power mitochondria getting you more ATP and less ROS.
SO BASICALLY
Is UV aging your skin?
Or do you never get your morning red/infrared to prime your skin, spending your days under blue light, and then get burned when you step out into the hot sun without a base tan?
Do the studies show that Sun is aging? Or do they show that ISOLATED UV IN EXCESS is aging?
Questions for plato.
But yeah, that's why I use the inferno with the spertis and now I'll be using the krypton, because it combines red and IR with UV to get a full spectrum. My house is outfitted with incandescent bulbs/ warm and bluelight free LEDs, my screens from my phone to TV are all filtered, so I'm also making sure to get very low isolated bluelight exposure on my skin which is also very aging. Hope this makes you think :)
to confirm, if I bought the Sperti D and the Inferno, optimally I would use the infernon 3x daily, and the Sperti D once a day only around noon? Would i get some tanning benefits from both of these or do I also need the Fiji for that?
You'd get some tanning from the D because it's about 25% UVA, but Fiji if you wanna really tan. At that point I'd just buy an inferno and a small krypton. That's what I'd do if they were out back when I started using spertis
Is the $600 difference between the large krypton vs the small krypton + inferno worth it? I wanted some light setup for the winter in NJ and was going to start with the inferno, then later add the small krypton if i like it. But if the large krypton is that much better might just go ahead and spend the extra money.
Any tips on filtering light for secondary monitors? Ive used yours and grims recommendations for phones and laptops, but not sure what i can do for other screens.
Yeah, strong lights will suppress melatonin production a bit. I'd wait for 3.
If I wake up an hr before sunrise I'll use the red/IR light first, otherwise I use it after my morning walk
I'll use it in the afternoon with UV lights obviously
And then the night use I'm not 100% strict on because I'm not having too many issues rn and make sure to get my sunset walk, but I will blast it 3-4 hrs before bed usually around last meal for better nutrient uptake , glucose response and recovery
Thanks, that makes sense. Btw sunset walk, do you have some protection against public lights like a blue light filter? Everz time I walk around sunset the public lights and lights from cars are disturbing.
What would you say is the minimum watt needed for these lamps to be effective? I see even some with 40 watts have positivereviews. Are those limited to certain tupe of benefits only like eg. skincare?
I have 2 panels with 45 watts, only use them currently as evening light but wonder if they would be of any use as panels.
If you wear stuff to block the blue light you won't be getting the red light from the sunset, so I don't do anything until it's dark, then I'll wear blue blockers glasses and cover up
Can't say for sure without knowing what diodes they are, but those likely wouldn't be worth it as pannels.
Bio - thanks for this, was going to ask for this write up on next Q&A. Adjacent Q - you mentioned yellow tint blue light blockers during day and red tint in evening in last Q&A - what are you go to blue light blocking glasses?
1). It's my frist time taking advantage of IR Therapy, but would it be overkill for a first timer to use the same protocol as you with 20 minutes (3x daily) as a foundation? Or should I start a little slower?
Since the fire dragon is small and you could basically do 5 mins on the upper front, lower front, upper backside, and lower backside of your body and that would be equivalent to about 20mins of the inferno :) so it'd still be 20 mins for you, but not as much. I also don't wear goggles as it takes away most of the mental benefits. I don't personally see it as an eye hazard unless you stare at it point blank the whole time
Does anyone know if the Krypton allows you to toggle the UV capability on/off?
Yes
Interested as well
Read online that you can get the inferno equivalent on alibaba for cheaper something like this:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/280LEDs-1400W-Dual-Chip-Red-Light_1601060530591.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_image.62af13a0WzeuTu
Thoughts on this? Or do you reckon better to be safe than sorry and stick to inferno regardless of price differential?
or this:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/RLTTIME-Wholesale-Factory-Price-medical-grade_1600436546845.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_image.393313a0HbYxaE
definitely want to hear you follow up on your review of the Krypton. If it's combining the 3 in 1 you mentioned of the Sperti and the other lamp, would you adjust the settings differently if using morning, noon, evening? Like you wouldn't want a full blast of UV-B in the morning, but you would at noon, and then not at sunset?
You wouldn't want any UV light during am and PM which is why the inferno is still useful.
But with the Krypton you can just turn off the UV lamps during AM and PM right?
Also, should i buy the Yellow and Red glasses as well? And a stand or does it automatically come with the materials to hang it up on your door?
Is there any concern but when using a UV light like krypton without goggles? Do you recommend eyes closed?
Maybe a silly question, but if you live in Florida, and usually get Sun everyday would you need these? Or maybe just the red light?
It's been warm here the last few days, got some good midday sun, even on the goods. Mildly addictive. Just pulled the trigger on the Inferno. Looking forward to all the benefits!
This post couldn’t have come at a better time. I’ve been deep in the rabbit hole of Red Light/IR and circadian lifestyle. Was going to purchase this below product but now reconsidering upon seeing you mention that most Red Light products are a waste. Would that apply to this as well?
https://us.nurecover.com/products/nurecover-tropic-home-steam-sauna
Regarding the inferno, is there any benefit of purchasing the inferno "pro" versus the regular inferno?
Seems marginally better, I got the regular one and I'm very happy with it
Cool, thank you!
"Absolutely works better than finasteride" for hair growth. Do you now think red light therapy is even better than you did when you wrote the hairloss post? Thank you
Also, does the red light from the krypton actually reach the hair on top of your head when you are standing in front of it? Or would you still need a red light cap for this purpose?
UM, thanks for the detailed prescription the other day in the Q&As. Have commenced a purge on my lighting environment, and have been researching about light therapy. So needless to say the EMR-TEK Inferno is better than any makeshift contraptions (therabulb with brooder clamp) because of the wattage. For overall home lighting, I've always used low flicker/flicker free soft LEDs (2700k) with CRI 95. Would you recommend slowly changing them to the healthy home circadian friendly LEDs?
Therabulbs are cool and I have a few, but I usually just use them for heat. Incandescents are so much less efficient than LEDs that even if you match the inferno power-wise with 3 therabulbs, you're getting like 1/10 of most of the beneficial waves.
Healthy home LEDs are cool. I use a combination of incandescents (cheap AF on bulbs.com) which have some UV/red/IR to balance out the blue, healthy home bulbs, therabulbs, and the EMR-tek sunset bulb (for my night stand)
I guess the bulb placement depends on what times of the day you'll be using the lights. I do a lot of candles and oil lamps at night as well.
Thanks again for the detailed response. We barely get sun in the colder months where I live so I spent most of yesterday looking into redlight therapy and general indoor lighting but had some questions. Thankfully you created this post today🙏🙏🙏
I've always used f.lux and the nightshift feature on my phone and got a pair of bluelight blockers from amazon but will look into upgrading them and make sure I can mitigate bluelight from the indoor lighting as well.
I’ve been using this product off and on for a few years… am I wasting my time or is it powerful enough by to provide some benefit? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089974KW7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Waste of time bro :(
Thats 80W, the inferno is 1400W and uses better diodes so even if you used it for 3 and a half hours, if would not equal a 20 minute session of the inferno
Have used Red Light panels for about 4 years, am a believer. However, the UV-A/UV-B gives me pause- unless I completely misunderstand, wouldn’t that cause photo-aging and wrinkle development just like sun exposure? Am I misinterpreting this, or is that just the cost of doing business for the associated Vit-D/hormonal cascade upregulation? Many thanks Hacker!
That's a great question, but we need to look at the bigger picture. If UV light ages skin, why are skin cancers and premature aging on the rise while we're more sun-avoidant than ever? We're getting opposite of what you'd expect.
Here's what's actually happening:
- UV is less than 10% of sunlight, and UVB is only about 10% of that UV
- Natural sunlight has over 50% red and infrared light which have regenerative effects
- These wavelengths work together - you never get UV alone in nature
- Red and infrared light directly combat aging through, stimulating mitochondrial function, Improving cellular water production, and supporting tissue hydration
The problem isn't UV - it's:
- Getting UV without the balancing red/infrared
- Indoor blue light exposure destroying melatonin
- Poor light environments affecting mitochondrial function
- Modern lifestyle factors (seed oils, nnEMF, etc.) making skin more fragile
- Blocking proper melanin production by wearing sunglasses or contacts
- Not getting proper eye/skin coordination for melanin response
The solution? Get natural, balanced sunlight and supplemental light exposure, while building up your solar callus gradually, alllowing proper melanin response through both eye and skin exposure, supporting mitochondrial function, and avoid artificial light environments that age you faster
No hunter-gatherer society needed sunscreen, yet they didn't have epidemic skin aging. We need to look at the whole system, not just isolate one wavelength
Put on your thinking cap and go on a journey with me. Forget everything you thought you knew.
UV is ANTIAGING in the right context.
What's happening when the skin is aging? The cells are dehydrated, mitochondrial are producing less ATP and more ROS.
Yes UV light can stimulate ROS, but you know what else does? Blue light from indoor LEDs and tech screens
Anyway, ROS causes aging because it damages DNA (the instructions your cells follow) , your body's own proteins, peptides, and other healing/signaling molecule, and it damages lipids like the ones cell membranes are made out of.
So you have too much ROS breaking shit, not enough ATP to provide energy for cells to detox and repair, and the cells don't have enough deuterium free water.
When UV light strikes melanin, it can split water into free electrons, molecular oxygen and molecular hydrogen, which then go to power mitochondria getting you more ATP and less ROS.
SO BASICALLY
Is UV aging your skin?
Or do you never get your morning red/infrared to prime your skin, spending your days under blue light, and then get burned when you step out into the hot sun without a base tan?
Do the studies show that Sun is aging? Or do they show that ISOLATED UV IN EXCESS is aging?
Questions for plato.
But yeah, that's why I use the inferno with the spertis and now I'll be using the krypton, because it combines red and IR with UV to get a full spectrum. My house is outfitted with incandescent bulbs/ warm and bluelight free LEDs, my screens from my phone to TV are all filtered, so I'm also making sure to get very low isolated bluelight exposure on my skin which is also very aging. Hope this makes you think :)
Jesus Christ magnum opus response. Keep crushing it sir!
to confirm, if I bought the Sperti D and the Inferno, optimally I would use the infernon 3x daily, and the Sperti D once a day only around noon? Would i get some tanning benefits from both of these or do I also need the Fiji for that?
You'd get some tanning from the D because it's about 25% UVA, but Fiji if you wanna really tan. At that point I'd just buy an inferno and a small krypton. That's what I'd do if they were out back when I started using spertis
Is the $600 difference between the large krypton vs the small krypton + inferno worth it? I wanted some light setup for the winter in NJ and was going to start with the inferno, then later add the small krypton if i like it. But if the large krypton is that much better might just go ahead and spend the extra money.
Any tips on filtering light for secondary monitors? Ive used yours and grims recommendations for phones and laptops, but not sure what i can do for other screens.
"Yeah, you don't want to use it a couple hours before bed"
What's the problem with it lets say 2 hours before bed? Is it too strong as a light source?
What is your cadence of using these? (3x a day)
Do you use this in the morning before going for a walk or just after to supplement?
Yeah, strong lights will suppress melatonin production a bit. I'd wait for 3.
If I wake up an hr before sunrise I'll use the red/IR light first, otherwise I use it after my morning walk
I'll use it in the afternoon with UV lights obviously
And then the night use I'm not 100% strict on because I'm not having too many issues rn and make sure to get my sunset walk, but I will blast it 3-4 hrs before bed usually around last meal for better nutrient uptake , glucose response and recovery
Thanks, that makes sense. Btw sunset walk, do you have some protection against public lights like a blue light filter? Everz time I walk around sunset the public lights and lights from cars are disturbing.
What would you say is the minimum watt needed for these lamps to be effective? I see even some with 40 watts have positivereviews. Are those limited to certain tupe of benefits only like eg. skincare?
I have 2 panels with 45 watts, only use them currently as evening light but wonder if they would be of any use as panels.
If you wear stuff to block the blue light you won't be getting the red light from the sunset, so I don't do anything until it's dark, then I'll wear blue blockers glasses and cover up
Can't say for sure without knowing what diodes they are, but those likely wouldn't be worth it as pannels.
Bio - thanks for this, was going to ask for this write up on next Q&A. Adjacent Q - you mentioned yellow tint blue light blockers during day and red tint in evening in last Q&A - what are you go to blue light blocking glasses?
Spectra479 for the red night glasses and EMR-Tek for the yellow tints :)
I have just bought the FireDragon from EMR-TEK!
1). It's my frist time taking advantage of IR Therapy, but would it be overkill for a first timer to use the same protocol as you with 20 minutes (3x daily) as a foundation? Or should I start a little slower?
Since the fire dragon is small and you could basically do 5 mins on the upper front, lower front, upper backside, and lower backside of your body and that would be equivalent to about 20mins of the inferno :) so it'd still be 20 mins for you, but not as much. I also don't wear goggles as it takes away most of the mental benefits. I don't personally see it as an eye hazard unless you stare at it point blank the whole time